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Tyler Lewis recently lost his grandmother and Duke decided that was a crisis that couldn’t go to waste. From NBA reporter Alex Kennedy…
Duke fans reportedly chanted, “How’s your grandma?” at N.C. State’s Tyler Lewis, whose grandmother recently passed away. That’s messed up.
UPDATE: User @Marve25 posted a YouTube video of the chant. It occurs at around 0:37 as Tyler Lewis goes to take his second free throw at the 13:47 mark in the second half.
Claims since have been that the fans were in fact chanting “Past Your Bedtime”. Funny given this response from a Duke student who attended the game…
Joseph Henry February 8, 2013 at February 8, 2013 at 12:27 am
I’m honestly ashamed to say I’m a duke student. I’m lost grad, and I was stunned to hear this
Hurtful and wildly inappropriate chant. I was @ the game, I heard the chant. Amazing what will be spun as being “appropriate” after they royally screw up. I was at the game, section 19, row 3, and the crowd was not only chanting, but also spreading the word, to chant ‘how’s your grandmother’. Not 1, 2 ,3, but 4 separate people specifically told me his grandmother died as the reason for the chant.Classless students who are “mightier than thou” have ruined any good the CC wee did.
You stay classy, Duke!
Morning-after update: Nothing really new from what we have here, but here is a “main stream media” source (Fox Sports/MSN) that pushes the issue. Oh yeah, and just to stave off any assertions that State fans are only bringing this up because we are “bad losers” should probably read my article that post early this morning which makes no mention of the chant as a result of the loss.
There is a fine line between “getting lost in the emotion of the game” and just being a dick. The Cameron Crazies surpassed anything NC State might have said to Carolina fans about grades and the football scandal by making fun of the death of a family member. Way to show the nation that the Duke student body is a cut above the rest. Fortunately, the players seem to be rallying around Tyler.
@Rich1Howell Duke fans like to be tough in da gym but where the toughness go when you walkout the gym? He lost his grandma and y’all chant that? Cowards
@Follow24Hodge I hope the “national media” or Swofford makes a deal about the#cameroncrazies chanting “How’s your grandmother” to Tyler Lewis. RIP ma’am [Not a player, but close enough]
@JPV14Wolfpack Who chants about someone’s recently deceased grandmother, thats crossing the line.
@rpurvis_0 Duke fans are some disrespectful clowns. Who chants about a kids grandmother who passed away recently ?
…and one final one from Jordan Vandenberg…
@JPV14Wolfpack This right here is a family, we have each other’s back and nobody in this world is ever gonna change how much we support each other#OTF
Through the frustration of classless fans and a tough loss with plenty to argue about, it’s comforting to see our team coming out of a loss by banding together. The chemistry on this team is great and these are guys that play for each other, not for themselves. The Duke fans proved to be not just ‘crazy’, but also classless, shallow, and completely out-of-touch with reality. It’s refreshing to see players pull together and cover each other’s back.
UPDATE: Since Duke students/fans are circling the wagons, I feel the need to reiterate a few things.
1) The video definitely sounds like the students say “How’s your grandma”. Even if you are a skeptic and say they students were saying “Past your bedtime”, then you can’t say the video clearly says it. The message is slightly garbled, but given the initial reports that they students did, indeed, say “How’s your grandma”, it’s very feasible. And let’s face it, it’s not like the Cameron Crazies haven’t gone overboard before.
2) Even on the Duke blog linked above, there is a statement from and individual that gives full name and seat location who attests that the chant was passed around as “How’s your grandma”. Even if you don’t believe the commenter is telling the truth, at best it becomes a “his word against yours” argument.
3) The most convincing evidence that the tasteless chant went exactly as indicated was that the players responded as recorded above. The players were on the court in front of the students, or on the bench right across from them. They could probably hear exactly what was said more clearly than anyone else in the arena.
Make all the excuses you want, but the video sounds like it, initial reports claimed it, a source online has an account of it, and the players are reacting to it. That’s an awful lot to be nothing more than a vicious rumor that blogs are “running away with”. How many people said it, how long it was said, or by who it was said by doesn’t matter. I’m just happy that our players were big enough people to come together and support their fellow teammate.
I’ll say it again… you stay classy, Duke.
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“The Cameron Crazies surpassed anything NC State might have said to Carolina fans about grades and the football scandal by making fun of the death of a family member.”
…what does that have to do with ANY of this? Way to use the Crazies’ classless behavior to try to make your own immature fanbase look better. Guess what? It doesn’t.
Ugh. This is why there were not going to be any winners for me in tonight’s game. Lose-lose situation.
It has to do with the perpetual complaints we hear from over the hill regarding how rowdy and classless our fan base is. I wouldn’t expect a guy with the e-mail address “heelsrule1988@yahoo.com” to understand…
Can reporters do real research anymore? This was NOT chanted by the Cameron Crazies. You’ve got to be kidding me. One tweet goes out and everyone takes one tweet as the truth.
There was no such chant at tonight’s game. Ask anyone who was there.
You know what… fair enough. Luckily we have a clip on YouTube of the chant. It occurred at 13:47 in the 2nd half when Tyler Lewis took his 2nd FT shot. “How’s your grandma”.
Classy, Duke students. It would be one thing it this was Billy-Bo Bob hanging out at the Wal-Mart saying things like this, but Duke students? Wow. And the pathetic “past your bedtime” excuse? Hilarious. Multiple individuals all reporting it’s “Hows Your Grandma”, including NBA reporter with no connection to State? I understand you got some smart cookies over there at Duke. Surely you can admit to the obvious…
If you listened to the clip at all without bias, WolfpackWorld, you would hear what the Crazies were really chanting. They were saying “Past your bedtime”. Y’all took that one tweet and ran with it.
“Joseph Henry February 8, 2013 at February 8, 2013 at 12:27 am
I’m honestly ashamed to say I’m a duke student. I’m lost grad, and I was stunned to hear this
Hurtful and wildly inappropriate chant. I was @ the game, I heard the chant. Amazing what will be spun as being “appropriate” after they royally screw up. I was at the game, section 19, row 3, and the crowd was not only chanting, but also spreading the word, to chant ‘how’s your grandmother’. Not 1, 2 ,3, but 4 separate people specifically told me his grandmother died as the reason for the chant.
Classless students who are “mightier than thou” have ruined any good the CC wee did.”
I was in the student section for the game and actively participated in the “PAST YOUR BEDTIME” chant that is heard in the above video. I can promise you that there was no organized chant about Lewis’ grandmother. You’ve all fallen victim to a vicious rumor.
All the players sure seemed to rally behind Tyler Lewis for it just being a vicious rumor. I guess they couldn’t hear it clearly standing RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE STUDENT SECTION.
As I said, I was IN the student section and actively participated in yelling “Past your bedtime” several times along with all the students surrounding me. Sometimes it’s hard to grasp exactly what the students are saying and I don’t blame the players at all for defending a teammate if they feel he’s been the target of a malicious chant. I will also say it’s obviously possible that one or 2 fans screamed something about his grandmother in an area out of my earshot, but there was definitely no organized “How’s your grandmother” chant and the youtube video above is simply the “Past your bedtime” piece that was heard clearly by everyone in the lower bowl of the stadium. The twittosphere just blew up with the rumors and ignited tempers.
Yeah… and as I said, Jordan Vandenberg and Purvis were actually ON the court.
Keep spinning it all you want. Ironically, it would be a lot more believable if instead of trying to make it sound like no Crazy could POSSIBLY do any wrong you just admitted that some rambunctious little basketball fan, in the heat of the moment, might have said something dumb. But no… no Duke fan can be accused of doing wrong so it’s excuse, excuse, excuse. TV crowd heard it, people at the game heard it, players heard it. Your testimony means nothing.
I was able to go to the game tonight sat in the upper seats on the side behind the students. I don’t doubt for a second that some of the Camron Crazies yelled things about Lewis’ grandmother, I never did think they had much class. The part in the video actually was a “Past your bedtime” chant though, you could hear it pretty clear in the stands. I think the grandmother chant was earlier and couldnt be heard on tv or in most of the stadium, just on the floor. Thats why the players and those on press row were the only ones who knew about it.
For what its worth, the mainstream media seems to say this was all just a rumor. The News & Observer’s Laura Keeley tweeted “I have talked to several other reporters at the #Duke game. The students didn’t chant about Tyler Lewis’s dead grandma. That’s a fact.”
Actually, Joe Ovies retweeted a messages from a person on the Agromeck staff that said that it wasn’t the entire student section, but the chant definitely happened. You can argue about the scale of the chant, but it still happened.
https://twitter.com/joeovies/status/299744151610724352
As yet another student in the student section, who actively participated in the past your bedtime chant, there was no how’s your grandma chant. That was never a planned, thought of, or even mentioned idea for a chant. Frankly i didn’t even know Lewis’s grandmother had passed, and i doubt many if any students at all were even aware of this fact and therefore would have no reason to mention grandmothers at all. That said, all my condolences go to him and his family for their loss. To chant something like that would be completely awful and be stooping to a level that no one should ever go, and no duke student would have stood for that to be said by anyone else. This is simply something misheard that someone wanted to use to ignite a flame. Also whoever joseph henry is, he was not a student in the student section. The student section does not have any section or seat designations or anything like that, they’re just bleachers. So whatever ‘crowd’ he’s referring to is not the student section so if this chant was heard elsewhere in the stadium wherever he was, the crazies were not responsible
Thanks for your input. So basically as a student you say it didn’t happen and there was no way to tell whether it was students or not even though the players were standing right in front of the students. Check.
Ok let’s get this right. Duke was not saying how’s your grandma. They were clearly saying past your bedtime. Hince he is the smallest player on the court by a long shot. And honestly nobody outside of the state team, media, and a few fans knew anything about his grandma. That is seriously egotistical. It is your back up point guards grandma. It didn’t make main stream media. Go read some of the interviews of fans after the game by real reporters. All of them said I didn’t know his grandma died. How about you state fans have some class. Learn how to take a loss like a man. I hope you take this false article down, because with money duke and its fans have lawyers will be all over you. This is libel, a criminal offense. So how about you learn the facts instead of listing to one sorry state fan who started all this crap.
Like I said to another commenter, the question isn’t whether it did or didn’t happen; it’s how many people were in on it. Multiple people heard a chant “Hows your grandma” and it appeared to come from the Cameron Crazies from what the players and a couple people on reporters’ row were saying (https://twitter.com/joeovies/status/299744151610724352). How many people were saying it isn’t really my point, nor do I really care. It’s that it’s a classless move by a group of fans, and it’s encouraging to see our team pull together when they hear something like that.
I really don’t care “how many people” were in on the chant. It was claimed to occur according to multiple sources, whether a whole section or ‘just a couple of idiots’. Our team responded very appropriately.
PS: Testimony from fans is kind of useless here, even if you really want to go down that rabbit hole. The accusation is against the Cameron Crazies. Asking them whether it happened is kind of like asking the suspect of a petty crime if they did it. Kind of an exercise in futility…
I am a Vermont fan, so I am as unbiased as possible. If anything I’m more inclined to go for Duke considering all my friends and coaches are Duke fans and I’m a Duke baseball fan. I watched the game and heard the chant from a few people, but I have a few friends who were at the game and they all said there were about 20 or 30 fans who at one point started chanting “how’s your grandma?” That’s fucked up. And whteher it got national media attention or not does not matter. It’s not hard to find this stuff out. When I played high school basketball I did research on players I played against so I could talk shit to them on the court, stuff like your stat line is shit, and you cant play, and my sister is better than you. It’s not hard to use google.
Thank you, thank you, thank you… Glad to hear an unbiased opinion.
The comment from that “student” has been verified as false. The school looked in the records for that student and did not find one. Also, grad students do not stand in section 19. They stand behind the baskets. The vast majority of students didn’t even know about his grandmother’s passing. It was not on the CC Cheat Sheet. Please stop slandering us. Stay classy, Raleigh.
Who said it was on a cheat sheet? Multiple people have acknowledged it happened including the players. I said it on Twitter and I’ll say it again: The fact that your students aren’t even willing to admit that maybe… possibly… a few students decided to act classless is a testament to how arrogant and naive you are.
I also was at the game. I actively participated in the “Past your bedtime” chant, but never heard anything remotely close to “How’s your grandma” said. Honestly, I was shocked to come home later that night and see the stories on Twitter. However, I want to refute one specific thing “wolfpackworld” is saying. The Duke student section is NOT directly behind the players’ benches. It’s actually on the opposite side of the court.
Fair point. Doesn’t really matter to me *who* said it… just that multiple people are saying it was said. It could be a bunch of 80 year old alumni for all I care. Doesn’t change what it is and that the players obviously reacted to it.
First of all, I’m very sorry about Tyler Lewis’s grandmother, and it’s admirable how well he’s played in the face of such adversity. But as yet another Duke student who was in the student section, I can also confirm that there was no organized chant about his grandmother. Someone with a whiteboard got on the videoboard with a sign saying it was past Tyler Lewis’s bedtime, obviously a joke about him looking young and short. We pick on that kind of thing all the time. It’s not nice, but it’s not out of bounds. When he went to the free-throw line shortly after that sign was on the videoboard, we were all primed to say, “Past your bedtime.”
On the other hand, why would we chant about his grandmother? We’re a self-policing bunch–bad chants simply don’t get carried on, and chants that are unnecessarily cruel are, for the most part, shut down immediately. Furthermore, we didn’t even KNOW about his grandmother. We’d done basic research on him, but he’s the backup point guard. We were more focused on C.J. Leslie’s poem than Tyler Lewis. We never found it out, and a “How’s your grandma” chant would therefore only confuse any students who heard it, and they would not pass it on because it would be nonsensical if you didn’t know about his grandmother. And, most importantly, we’re jerks, but we’re not evil.
Just as an aside, these chants aren’t necessarily easy to hear immediately. It took me a few seconds to hear that another chant (coincidentally for Tyler Lewis) was “Bilbo Baggins.” On TV, a lot of fans were wondering why we were chanting, “Purvis, Purvis, Purvis” when we were actually labeling him as Rodney “Nervous, nervous, nervous” Purvis. The same could’ve happened on the floor–one player misinterprets it and spreads the wrong information to the rest of them.
One player hears it wrong… and some media people… and some fans…